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Northern Illinois And Their (Modestly Credible) Case As The No. 25 Team

Over the weekend I exchanged a little banter with some majorer-college football bloggers, because we had a slight disagreement on the following statement:

Northern Illinois is the No. 25 county in the nation.

Indeed, take any computer ranking in the country, and they're at best putting them in the 30-40 range, but usually farther back in the 60-70 echelon out of 120. So, the best MAC team is in the lower half. Some computer polls have Toledo further ahead, mostly because of strength-of-schedule, also known as strength-to-get-creamed-by-two-top-20-schools. But for the most part, algorithms like NIU as the team with the must spunk 'n hustle, but not enough to have them even sniff the Top 15.

So it's going to take a human leap of faith (not unlike a Paul Hershey fake punt) to put them up there. This may be why I don't have a BlogPoll vote. (Although some that do...)

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Okay, let's look at the reasons they ain't close to #25, and then counterargue:

The 27-10 loss to Iowa State. Yeah, that looks pretty bad, especially with a three-possession loss to a team that got blanked by Oklahoma and blasted by Utah. ISU did hold tough against 5-2 Kansas State but the main thing to take away from this game is that DeMarcus Grady was your starter. Chandler Harnish wasn't available, and had he been healthy, you have to believe the score looks a lot better. Maybe even a victory. But the team that lost to ISU is not the same team today.

The Illinois loss. That one was 28-22, a nail-biter that didn't fall the Huskies way. But look at Illinois: they're 3-3 and their three losses are to Missouri, Ohio State, and Michigan State — a combined 21-1 record. They were not destroyed by either Mizzou or OSU, and the Illini did tear up Penn State.

Minnesota isn't a marquee win. They beat the Gophers in Minnesota by 11, as did ranked USC and winning-record Purdue. Minny fell to Northwestern by a single point, and at home Wisconsin only bested them by 18 points. Uh, yeah, they're 1-6 (and counting) but NOBODY has blown this team out by more than that.

And finally ... they're playing MAC teams. And as we all know, bad MAC teams are filled with paraplegic wheelchair-bound lepers who need to be informed by seeing-eye dogs where the end zone is, and what happens when you get there. (Spoiler: ICE CREAM!!1)

Add together the wins over Akron, Temple and Buffalo, and you have yourself a 126-45 combined margin of victory, or an average win of 42-15. Big beautiful blowouts. Boise State has beaten up, among other lower-half teams, a ranked team at home and somebody that James Madison also beat (and by more points).

This isn't a case for them eventually becoming ranked (although they could very well blast through those last five games unscathed). This is a case for right now. Who else are you going to put at No. 25?

Miami of Florida is the consensus No. 25, based on all the polls ran by football hominids. Could they beat Miami on a neutral field? They're certainly not playing very well lately, at least in the last two games. It took them seven Duke turnovers to create 28 points. My guess is that the Hurricanes probably beat NIU 7 times out of 10, and all 10 are close games. It's not an air-tight argument, but few are.

NIU is at 3-0 in the MAC, along with Toledo and [eyebrow raise] Miami. This is a strange year indeed for early risers, but while their nonconference record is rather tarnished, these are teams that get five, maybe six games a year at home to establish themselves. You're comparing this kind of schedule against teams like Michigan State and Ohio State, both which enjoyed zero nonconference road trips. Give 'em some credit. No. 25 isn't asking much.

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OK, so it’s not the Blog poll…and I did set myself a rule that all conferences must be represented…though I then neglected to observe that rule for several weeks with regard to the ACC.

I think in general, people who follow non-AQ conferences/teams are more willing to rank non-AQ teams, while people who follow AQ conferences/teams tend to be more willing to omit non-AQ teams. I’m not saying that one is right or wrong — if we had a playoff, we’d get a better picture! — but just that it’s how it is.

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by cmadler on Oct 19, 2010 11:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Nope

Not there yet. This team is making too many mental errors and have yet to play a complete game. I’ll reserve judgment until we play Toledo.

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by Mike Breese on Oct 20, 2010 8:56 AM CDT reply actions  

'too many mental errors'

Can be aid of any team in the 20-30 range… Seriously once you subtract ISU there is no way to make a case for NIU being outside of 30.. After that is all judgment.

by Tim Riordan on Oct 20, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fumble by Spann, bad coverage teams, had punt blocked

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by Mike Breese on Oct 21, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Incomplete game...

Spann fumble on the 1st play and lapses in the secondary for 2 straight weeks against UT and UB. The closest they’ve come to playing a complete game is the Akron game, but that’s against a terrible team to begin with…

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by Taxman588 on Oct 20, 2010 11:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Looking for way too much from your team I am afraid..

Any team in the 20-30 range will have a turnover or a couple of bad plays in a given contest.

by Tim Riordan on Oct 20, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

A signature win over Temple, BUT

this NIU team is still a “work in progress”…..some good lookin young players, and at this point I believe the best team in the MAC…..BUT I want to see how they perform against W. Mich on the road and then, the Toledo game (the Rockets have always had our number).
show me something against those two teams and then you can see them moving up in the rankings…..but, #25? no way

by BigDHuskie on Oct 20, 2010 8:08 PM CDT reply actions  

No

If we win out, yes.

Now, absolutely not.

by teejay73 on Oct 24, 2010 11:19 AM CDT reply actions  

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