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Remember When The MAC Was Good At Basketball?

Sports Illustrated is going through a pretty neat redesign, it seems, and it's hardly college basketball season. So it's not like all the kinks are worked out, but ... look at this. Five conferences are missing. No worries, they're all small conferences: the Big South, the Southland, the Metro Atlantic (MAAC), the Great West, and ... the MAC.

(sigh)

This really pains me. I know it's just a simple mistake, but when/whether they're rightfully added to that SI is not the point. Because this is about what the hell happened to the MAC as a basketball conference.

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I guess it was never a "powerhouse," but they've had better days. In '98 and '99 the conference spat out back-to-back at-large bids: Western Michigan and Miami, respectively. Each won March Madness games, while curiously the tournament winner bowed out gracefully in the first game.

There were the great tournament runs, and memorable faces: Wally Szczerbiak and Miami in '99, Antonio Gates and Kent State in '02, Chris Kaman and CMU in '03. Then there was a long drought of one-and-done teams lasting six tournaments until OHIO somehow cold-cocked Georgetown, which as I've written has to be a perplexing aberration. Are we going to remember Armon Bassett's team fondly? Perhaps moreso than his arrest record.

It's not about the talent, either. The MAC never brings in the bestestestest players, and when they do pluck away that four-star shooting guard, odds are his dad is a head coach.

You already believe me, but let's look at some numerals. Such as the Pomeroy conference rankings since 2004:

2004: #13
2005: #11 (Marshall's last year)
2006: #16
2007: #13
2008: #12
2009: #18
2010: #16

Sagarin rating archives go back further, and keep the MAC nice and toasty in the 9 to 11 range before that.

And some non-number data, like MAC players in the NBA (draft number in parentheses)

1997
Antonio Daniels, BGSU (4)
Ira Newble, Miami (undrafted)

1998
Bonzi Wells, Ball State (11)
Casey Shaw, Toledo (37)
Derrick Dial, EMU (52)
Earl Boykins, EMU (undrafted)

1999
Wally Szczerbiak, Miami (6)

2002
Tamar Slay, Marshall (54)

2003
Chris Kaman, CMU (6)
Brandon Hunter, OHIO (56)
Keith McLeod, BGSU (undrafted)
Nate Huffman, CMU (undrafted)
Theron Smith, Ball State (undrafted)

2004
John Edwards, Kent State (undrafted)

So why the dropoff?

It seems like the MAC had been putting all their chips into becoming more of a football conference, and to that degree, they still are. They clawed for more bowl tie-ins, even if it meant hell, high water, or playing in Toronto. They added Temple. They ensured more national TV coverage. They got teams to play on Thursday, Wednesday, and Tuesday. They did all these neat things, and we all love college football, so there is no complaining here.

But in the meantime, it feels like the basketball portion has been neglected. That, or other conferences are doing it better. Since 2003 — the dropoff year we're using — the Missouri Valley became regular at-large exporter. Butler put the Horizon League on the map with a trip to the national championship game. Gonzaga — aside from being Gonzaga's bad self — and the West Coast Conference just added freaking BYU. The Southern Conference had the phenomenon of Stephen Curry; the CAA gave us George Mason's Final Four run. Even the goddamn Ivy League saw Cornell reach the Sweet 16 last year. The Ivy League! Mother of God.

It's not that I have an answer for the regression toward the mean, but it sure would be nice if the MAC could be considered a more powerful conference than the MAAC. Or even the MAAAC, should such a conference is formed out of the terra firma. But if you do see it, double-check to make sure it's not another SI.com beta bug.

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I think purely focusing on football is a big mistake.

No matter what you do, the big conferences simply will not let you compete. From making it damn near impossible to get an at large bid into a Bowl game to squeezing out the MAC from the week night broadcasts.

4 or 5 years ago (maybe even 3), you could count on seeing the MAC on one of those late weekday espn games. Now, were relegated to espnu or espn3 because espn has decided that Colorado or Kansas or Connecticut or North Carolina or some other Big East, Big 12, or ACC 5th place team needs exposure.

The MAC whored itself out for the national spotlight and now, even though we’re still playing those games, we’re not getting the national spotlight any more.

Then you have to look at the neutral site “home” games. NIU can’t play a Big Ten team in DeKalb anymore. They all have to either be played as a psuedo home game at Soldier Field, in the Big Ten stadium, or not at all. This hurts NIU because anytime we play Iowa, or Illinois, or Wisconsin or whoever at Soldier Field, there’s alway 30,000 (insert Big Ten team) fans in attendance. Sure, the home team on the scoreboard is NIU, but there’s no home field advantage.

Seriously, thank God for Iowa State. At least they’ll come to DeKalb once every 5 years or so. They don’t seem to care.

This year, the NIU non-conference schedule has road games against Iowa State, Illinois, and Minnesota with their one home non-conf game being North Dakota.

Next year? Road games: Kansas. Home: Army (good for them) and Wisconsin (in Soldier Field)

2012: Road: Army (the old home and home). Home: Iowa (@ Soldier Field), Tennessee-Martin, Kansas (returning the favor).

2013: Road: Iowa, Purdue. Home?? Nothing yet.

2014: Road: Wake Forest. Home? Nothing yet.

2015: Road: Ohio State. Home??

2018: Road: Iowa State (I’m assuming this will be accompanied by a home game a few years later.

Not one Big Ten team will travel here. Not one. Iowa State, Kansas and Army are the only ones and thats as part of a home and home series. I know NIU would gladly do the home and homes more often, but the Big Ten schools aren’t interested. And they know they have the MAC over a barrell because if the MAC wants to play them (and they really do), then it has to be on their terms. It’s either play at Soldier Field or Ford Field or wherever, or go find a Big 12 or an Independant team to play you that doesn’t mean nearly as much to your fans.

At least in basketball, the small schools/small conferences have a chance to compete. The power of the major football conferences just won’t allow it and no one even cares to address it.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Oct 7, 2010 4:46 PM CDT reply actions  

“Not one Big Ten team will travel here.”

People around here often complain about Michigan scheduling 7-8 home games a year: 4 home/4 road Big (11) Ten games, home and home with Notre Dame, and then three home games against MAC, FCS, or weak AQ teams. There are two very obvious reasons they do this:

1. Money. Specifically, about $5,000,000 per home game. Penn State and Ohio State are probably about the same; other Big (11) Ten schools with smaller stadia are probably in the $2.5-$3.5 million range.
2. They can. Because most non-AQ schools make far less from a home game than what the big schools pay (e.g., MAC schools are usually doing good if they make $250,000 on a home game), plus they’re usually happy to get the “exposure”.

I’m not saying it’s right, I’m just saying it’s going to continue, and if the roles were switched, most schools would do the same.

by cmadler on Oct 8, 2010 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great article

A very nice analysis of the issue of basketball in the MAC. It is sad to see MAC basketball relegated to second fiddle, but football brings in more money and exposure.

During the 2006-07 season, the MAC won 6 of 8 games against Summit League teams. Since then, the conferences have split the games, 8 for SL and 8 for MAC. I think that too is another indication that the league has gone down in basketball. As a fan of the SL, I’d love to attribute that to our league getting better (which it has), but most would consider MAC to be higher up on the hoops conference hierarchy, yet in the last three seasons that hasn’t really held up, and I think the balance could shift to SL this year.

by blackandgoldcorey on Oct 7, 2010 8:05 PM CDT reply actions  

FFS

we beat Georgetown THIS YEAR. THIS CALENDAR YEAR we knocked off a #3 seed Georgetown featuring NBA players in their starting lineup. And ESPN forgets us?

then again, last time they remembered us it was 2006 and we were ESPN’s IT TEAM and it led to the season that should have been a reality series that would have made Hard Knocks look like The Bozo Show.

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by Bubbaprog on Oct 9, 2010 12:16 AM CDT reply actions  

also

never saw that column on BC sports before. nice work

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by Bubbaprog on Oct 9, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

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